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Different This Time

Tommy Grimes III

November 26, 2018

Genre: Country

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Co-written with the awesome Lisa Caterbone, who is also the wonderful singer on the track. A song about how hard it can be to leave an abusive relationship, and how even best friends sometimes just don't understand that.

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Frank Renfordt

Hi Tommy, I like the song, it’s honest and appeals to me. I especially like the dynamics that starts with the bridge. The lyrics and the melody fit together very well. The only weak point for me is the end: the text line ’ it was no different this time’ sounds somehow weak, because we all already know that.

November 26, 2018

Lee Myers

Hi Tommy and Lisa,

I enjoyed the song. It touches upon an emotional subject and has a universal theme: wanting to be loved differently. And, everyone would like to have friends that care.
Here’s what I hear section by section:

First verse:  Nice visuals. Could be improved with more specific verbs for “sitting” etc.

Prechorus: “The silence unbroken”—-unnatural reversal of word order.
            “not a word spoken”—-repeats what previous line says.
            “til she looked at me, shook her head, and said”—-maybe better word would be “glanced”or something like that because the person being talked about (the best friend) is driving.

Chorus:  Chorus is fine with unspoken lead-in “SHE said”——“Did you think it would be different this time?

Second verse:  Here it gets confusing. I think mainly because the point of view is shifting within this verse. “I fell again for his romances/but he was just the same inside.”  Is singer talking directly to the audience (and giving us background info) or is she talking about what she told her best friend who’s driving?

Also, here the images of “tears” “eyes” could be fresher. And, the line “I fell for his romances” feels like it was inserted simply because an end rhyme was needed for “answers.”  It feels and sounds unnatural to me. This song subject is serious and it feels like something, maybe more detail, is needed here.

Finally, the last two lines: “Her voice seething with scorn/upset, she pressed harder on the gas.”  From your description of the song, I know that the best friend doesn’t understand, but the listener may not understand. Especially, the phrase “seething with scorn”—-“seething” is harsh, so too is “scorn” which to me suggests disrespect and contempt. What has singer done that deserves such a harsh reaction from the best friend/driver?

Sections after the instrumental break:  Here the point of view shifts again. Now instead of the singer telling the audience what she told her best friend (the driver), and what her best friend told her in response (i.e., the chorus), singer for the rest of the song appears to be directly addressing the best friend. 

And, there is a bit of mind-reading here as best friend should know that the singer is the “wife” and that it takes two people in a troubled relationship “to patch up our lives.”

This song, while making its central idea clear, has a few areas that need revising. This song could be great.

November 26, 2018

Tommy Grimes III

Hi Frank and Lee!

Thank you both for the feedback! And Lee, especially thank you for such detailed feedback, that is awesome! Always useful to have specifics, and I appreciate you taking the time to go into those details (and I take that as a compliment too!)

There are reasons for some of the things being what they are, but here’s the thing - if the reasons need to be explained outside of the song, then the song isn’t fully doing its job : ) So I won’t go into the reasons here, but instead will take all that feedback onboard! Awesome stuff, and thank you for that.

November 27, 2018

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Brent Baxter

Hey, Tom & Lisa!
Thanks for sharing your song with us.  I like that it starts off with an image.  Pulls me right into the story.  I like the thought of the song and the chorus.

What if the singer is speaking to herself?  I think it makes her less a victim because she’s figuring it out for herself instead of having the other person have to ask her.  She asking herself the chorus as she’s on the way out.  Puts the singer in a better position, commercially-speaking.

Hope that helps.  Please pay it forward by leaving a comment on another writer’s song.  Doesn’t have to be in-depth or authoritative- just your thoughts.  The best way to GET feedback is to GIVE feedback, after all!  Thanks!

November 28, 2018

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Haydee Ahrens

I think this song is very well-done. It is a story that is understandable and universal in the sense that we have all seen these very sad situations. The backing track was very solid as well. You guys seem like a really good team, seriously you should collaborate again. The melody is pretty seamless. Thank you for sharing this.

December 12, 2018

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Lisa Caterbone

Thank you everyone for your wonderful feedback. I was thrilled when Tom asked me to sing the vocals on this song, which ultimately turned into a co-write as we discussed the first version he created and where I thought I saw some changes could be made. Tom is an excellent co-writer and I’m honored to have taken part on this song. All of your feedback has been noted and appreciated. Thanks again!

February 10, 2019

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Frank Renfordt

Hi Tommy, I like the song, it’s honest and appeals to me. I especially like the dynamics that starts with the bridge. The lyrics and the melody fit together very well. The only weak point for me is the end: the text line ’ it was no different this time’ sounds somehow weak, because we all already know that.

November 26, 2018

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Lee Myers

Hi Tommy and Lisa,

I enjoyed the song. It touches upon an emotional subject and has a universal theme: wanting to be loved differently. And, everyone would like to have friends that care.
Here’s what I hear section by section:

First verse:  Nice visuals. Could be improved with more specific verbs for “sitting” etc.

Prechorus: “The silence unbroken”—-unnatural reversal of word order.
            “not a word spoken”—-repeats what previous line says.
            “til she looked at me, shook her head, and said”—-maybe better word would be “glanced”or something like that because the person being talked about (the best friend) is driving.

Chorus:  Chorus is fine with unspoken lead-in “SHE said”——“Did you think it would be different this time?

Second verse:  Here it gets confusing. I think mainly because the point of view is shifting within this verse. “I fell again for his romances/but he was just the same inside.”  Is singer talking directly to the audience (and giving us background info) or is she talking about what she told her best friend who’s driving?

Also, here the images of “tears” “eyes” could be fresher. And, the line “I fell for his romances” feels like it was inserted simply because an end rhyme was needed for “answers.”  It feels and sounds unnatural to me. This song subject is serious and it feels like something, maybe more detail, is needed here.

Finally, the last two lines: “Her voice seething with scorn/upset, she pressed harder on the gas.”  From your description of the song, I know that the best friend doesn’t understand, but the listener may not understand. Especially, the phrase “seething with scorn”—-“seething” is harsh, so too is “scorn” which to me suggests disrespect and contempt. What has singer done that deserves such a harsh reaction from the best friend/driver?

Sections after the instrumental break:  Here the point of view shifts again. Now instead of the singer telling the audience what she told her best friend (the driver), and what her best friend told her in response (i.e., the chorus), singer for the rest of the song appears to be directly addressing the best friend. 

And, there is a bit of mind-reading here as best friend should know that the singer is the “wife” and that it takes two people in a troubled relationship “to patch up our lives.”

This song, while making its central idea clear, has a few areas that need revising. This song could be great.

November 26, 2018

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Tommy Grimes III

Hi Frank and Lee!

Thank you both for the feedback! And Lee, especially thank you for such detailed feedback, that is awesome! Always useful to have specifics, and I appreciate you taking the time to go into those details (and I take that as a compliment too!)

There are reasons for some of the things being what they are, but here’s the thing - if the reasons need to be explained outside of the song, then the song isn’t fully doing its job : ) So I won’t go into the reasons here, but instead will take all that feedback onboard! Awesome stuff, and thank you for that.

November 27, 2018

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Brent Baxter

Hey, Tom & Lisa!
Thanks for sharing your song with us.  I like that it starts off with an image.  Pulls me right into the story.  I like the thought of the song and the chorus.

What if the singer is speaking to herself?  I think it makes her less a victim because she’s figuring it out for herself instead of having the other person have to ask her.  She asking herself the chorus as she’s on the way out.  Puts the singer in a better position, commercially-speaking.

Hope that helps.  Please pay it forward by leaving a comment on another writer’s song.  Doesn’t have to be in-depth or authoritative- just your thoughts.  The best way to GET feedback is to GIVE feedback, after all!  Thanks!

November 28, 2018

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Haydee Ahrens

I think this song is very well-done. It is a story that is understandable and universal in the sense that we have all seen these very sad situations. The backing track was very solid as well. You guys seem like a really good team, seriously you should collaborate again. The melody is pretty seamless. Thank you for sharing this.

December 12, 2018

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Lisa Caterbone

Thank you everyone for your wonderful feedback. I was thrilled when Tom asked me to sing the vocals on this song, which ultimately turned into a co-write as we discussed the first version he created and where I thought I saw some changes could be made. Tom is an excellent co-writer and I’m honored to have taken part on this song. All of your feedback has been noted and appreciated. Thanks again!

February 10, 2019


Different This Time

Written by Tommy Grimes III

Written by Tommy Grimes III and Lisa Caterbone

Sitting cryin’ by the roadside
Waiting for my friend to come
I climbed inside when she pulled over
Without a word we drove off
The silence unbroken
Not a word spoken
‘til she looked at me, shook her head, and said

Did you think it would be different this time?
Did you think that he would love you forever?
That there’d be no more cryin’
No cheatin’ no fightin’
Did you think it would be different this time?

I had to think of some good answers
Dryin’ tears from my sad eyes
I fell again for his romances
But he was just the same inside
‘til my friend spoke once more
Her voice seething with scorn
Upset, she pressed harder on the gas

Did you think it would be different this time?
Did you think that he would love you forever?
That there’d be no more cryin’
No cheatin’ no fightin’
Did you think it would be different this time?

(instrumental break)

I really thought I could save him
I really thought love might change him
So just drive on now, don’t blame me
Coz I really thought it would be

Yes I thought it would be different this time
Yes I thought he might love me forever
I had to try as his wife
To patch up our lives
In the hopes it would be different this time
But you were right, it was no different this time
Lord forgive me, it was no different this time
He was no different this time
It was no different this time
It was no different this time

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