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Wild Horse Rider

Frank Renfordt

February 23, 2018

Genre: Country

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A bit Southern Rock for all those Redneck Girls out there! I love you all!

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Kyle Mercer

Nice piece. On first listen, I felt the verses and pre-chorus were a little stronger than the chorus, but the second time I listened to it, I decided it was just the last few lines of the chorus that had caught my ear—probably because you’ve been using mostly concrete descriptions up to that point, then suddenly shift to the metaphorical. The bridge seems like the weakest link to me, but I’m not a big fan of lyrical bridges, so that’s not unusual.

The second line of the song—‘it’s not like her to show’—is a little awkward in English. Not exactly incorrect, but not a normal, conversational way to phrase that sentiment. But I thought the opening line set up the rest of the song very well.

Good luck with it.

March 03, 2018

Gordon Donaldson

This song has a double hook! In the verse and in the chorus: yeah, she’s like that. Which makes the song even stronger, in my opinion. One day I hope to hear this song on the radio.

March 06, 2018

Shane Trepeaux

Hi Frank!

I’ll tell ya what caught my attention real quick was the title. “Wild Horse Rider” just seems a bit strange to me.  For me personally, growing up in Arkansas and around a few horses, I’ve just never referred to anyone as a wild horse rider, much less a hot girl. Sure, I think I understand what you’re trying to say here. She’s a hot girl who will take on just about anything, a little rough around the edges, but she’s still the one for you. I get that! And that could be pretty cool! I was just thinking that some of the wording may be a bit awkward and the perspective a tad dated for current American country radio. That’s just my opinion. There are good lines in the song though.

I’m just not crazy about how you make reference to her being the rider of wild horses.(because she’s tough and will take on anything/anyone) But then it looks like SHE’S the wild horse to be ridden, should a guy try to “tame” her. (because she going to buck him off) I’ve been married for 27 years and have a daughter in her twenties. And I can tell you for sure that they wouldn’t want to be either of the women. Ya know what I mean? A bit difficult to understand, I know.

I’m afraid that as Brent says, “It’s shrinking the target bullseye” here. Sure, a few guys might dig it. And we’ve ALL thought it. But I really think that the women who do most of the concert ticket buying might be turned off a bit. And then on the other side of the coin, I’m thinking that most male artists who realize this, wouldn’t want to shoe horn themselves into painting the picture of the woman in either light.

- Just my opinion Frank. I’m sure you could write her in a more market current, positive light perspective and it would be great. Thanks for sharing it! I plan to listen to them all!

 

April 02, 2018

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Frank Renfordt

Hi Shane, thank you for great feedback. I wrote this song from the title, I liked the title somehow because it’s a bit unusual. I’m always looking for interesting titles. I have to confess, it is also a bit confusing - because the title refers here to the narrator.

It’s funny, but my experience is that especially women like the song. I even got inquiries from women asking me where to buy the song. There seems to be a number of women like to see themselves in a way I’ve described it here - emancipated, edgy but also sexy and kindhearted. By the way - I had my own wife in mind when writing the song (I’m afraid so she is not the girl on the cover wink
But you may be right that this song is not for everyone. On the other hand I think it is not always good trying to write for the market - who really knows the market? Sure some things won’t work, but sometimes you are surprised and I don’t want to limit my creativity too much.  Thank you again!

April 04, 2018

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Shane Trepeaux

Ah,.. I see Frank! Good points. I was just thinking from reading your bio that you were looking to write current commercial country songs and hoping to get a cut by an artist some day. Don’t let my opinion come across as negative in any way. -Just hoping to throw a little Arkansas hillbilly horseman perspective in there and help.

As you said, it IS funny that you say that regarding women liking the song. Well done, and I hope it makes you some money. I’m 100% sure SOME women do! And I myself, DO know a few women who seem very much like the character in your song. So, you’ve got a cool thing going there with the song. And it does seem that it’s relatable to SOME.

No, I’m personally no expert on the current market. But I truly think as far as the American market goes, there are guys like Brent Baxter, some of his associates and others who DO know it. It’s their livelihood. And they’re right there with their finger on the pulse of it in Nashville, LA and New York. They communicate quickly to one another as they see it change. And the one’s who continue to have success adapt. (ie. Nashville’s Peach Pickers, Ashley Gorley, Hillary Lindsey & Shane Macanally) Then guys like you and I slowly hear/see the change through radio play or some online source, etc..That market IS fickle, and definitely changes like the wind. (here in America anyway). Maybe the German market is a bit different right now. (???)

I’m personally a stone cold, three-chord country music lover myself. I love it and grew up on it, along with many other genres. I’ve got a stack of “old sounding” country songs that I’ve written, that might’ve sounded decent in the 90’s, but would only have a snowball’s chance in today’s market. And I absolutely DO write from more of an “out-of the-box” perspective, because the current market DOES bore me at times. However, since I’m looking for new artist cuts and to run with the current market, I’ve learned from different industry experts that I MUST write and sound somewhat as they do. And then when that changes, I MUST quickly adapt. Otherwise, there’s no possibility for any financial reward for me in it. Even though I’d write for free.

No, I’m definitely not a fan of my creativity seeming limited by that.(the “selling out” if you will)  Many of the song lyrics in today’s music seem simple, boring and often predictable to me. I’d love to write these vague, Rolling Stone-like or Bob Dylan-like dramatic songs all about me. Or on political hard topics and negative, that really go deep and make the listener think. But, I DO KNOW that most (not all), but MOST women will NOT want to hear that right now. And man, that stinks! Some of the best songs ever written and recorded have been those types of songs. In the current market, there’s not a ton of them on American country radio, if any at all right now. Maybe a few Eric Church, Sturgill Simpson, or Chris Stapleton cuts without radio play. (???)

So, the songs I’m going to be putting on Frettie and out for review may seem boring, simple, vanilla, and “ooh baby-like”. I know, I know, it’s not me! But that’s what’s on the current radio here in America, and I want cuts. I’m a writer. And I’m one who will write a ton of material, similar to what’s on the radio (positive, uptempo, love, etc), in hopes to get paid doing what I love. Writing music.

And it’s certainly ok if all one wants to do is write for themselves, what they like, a few friends, or in a small local circle. Then hey, anything goes in that case! Right? I’ve got a ton of those!

Thanks again for sharing ‘Wild Horse Rider’ Frank! I’m definitely going to be listening to as many of yours as I can. And DO feel free to throw ANY constructive criticism at my songs at any time. That’s what I need to be successful. -Have a good one Frank!!!

April 04, 2018

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Frank Renfordt

Shane I really appreciate your comments here. I think we are not that different minded. I also try to write for the Country market - you will get to hear some other songs which may be more mainstream. However in the meantime I have not much hope that I’ll get anything cut. But I have fun with my own music. I like to hear my own demos and I’m proud if something I have created sounds good to me. Don’t focus to much on cuts and making money with songwriting that may be quite frustrating! Enjoy the process and don’t underestimate how difficult it is to write a hit song.

April 05, 2018

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Kyle Mercer

Nice piece. On first listen, I felt the verses and pre-chorus were a little stronger than the chorus, but the second time I listened to it, I decided it was just the last few lines of the chorus that had caught my ear—probably because you’ve been using mostly concrete descriptions up to that point, then suddenly shift to the metaphorical. The bridge seems like the weakest link to me, but I’m not a big fan of lyrical bridges, so that’s not unusual.

The second line of the song—‘it’s not like her to show’—is a little awkward in English. Not exactly incorrect, but not a normal, conversational way to phrase that sentiment. But I thought the opening line set up the rest of the song very well.

Good luck with it.

March 03, 2018

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Gordon Donaldson

This song has a double hook! In the verse and in the chorus: yeah, she’s like that. Which makes the song even stronger, in my opinion. One day I hope to hear this song on the radio.

March 06, 2018

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Shane Trepeaux

Hi Frank!

I’ll tell ya what caught my attention real quick was the title. “Wild Horse Rider” just seems a bit strange to me.  For me personally, growing up in Arkansas and around a few horses, I’ve just never referred to anyone as a wild horse rider, much less a hot girl. Sure, I think I understand what you’re trying to say here. She’s a hot girl who will take on just about anything, a little rough around the edges, but she’s still the one for you. I get that! And that could be pretty cool! I was just thinking that some of the wording may be a bit awkward and the perspective a tad dated for current American country radio. That’s just my opinion. There are good lines in the song though.

I’m just not crazy about how you make reference to her being the rider of wild horses.(because she’s tough and will take on anything/anyone) But then it looks like SHE’S the wild horse to be ridden, should a guy try to “tame” her. (because she going to buck him off) I’ve been married for 27 years and have a daughter in her twenties. And I can tell you for sure that they wouldn’t want to be either of the women. Ya know what I mean? A bit difficult to understand, I know.

I’m afraid that as Brent says, “It’s shrinking the target bullseye” here. Sure, a few guys might dig it. And we’ve ALL thought it. But I really think that the women who do most of the concert ticket buying might be turned off a bit. And then on the other side of the coin, I’m thinking that most male artists who realize this, wouldn’t want to shoe horn themselves into painting the picture of the woman in either light.

- Just my opinion Frank. I’m sure you could write her in a more market current, positive light perspective and it would be great. Thanks for sharing it! I plan to listen to them all!

 

April 02, 2018

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Frank Renfordt

Hi Shane, thank you for great feedback. I wrote this song from the title, I liked the title somehow because it’s a bit unusual. I’m always looking for interesting titles. I have to confess, it is also a bit confusing - because the title refers here to the narrator.

It’s funny, but my experience is that especially women like the song. I even got inquiries from women asking me where to buy the song. There seems to be a number of women like to see themselves in a way I’ve described it here - emancipated, edgy but also sexy and kindhearted. By the way - I had my own wife in mind when writing the song (I’m afraid so she is not the girl on the cover wink
But you may be right that this song is not for everyone. On the other hand I think it is not always good trying to write for the market - who really knows the market? Sure some things won’t work, but sometimes you are surprised and I don’t want to limit my creativity too much.  Thank you again!

April 04, 2018

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Shane Trepeaux

Ah,.. I see Frank! Good points. I was just thinking from reading your bio that you were looking to write current commercial country songs and hoping to get a cut by an artist some day. Don’t let my opinion come across as negative in any way. -Just hoping to throw a little Arkansas hillbilly horseman perspective in there and help.

As you said, it IS funny that you say that regarding women liking the song. Well done, and I hope it makes you some money. I’m 100% sure SOME women do! And I myself, DO know a few women who seem very much like the character in your song. So, you’ve got a cool thing going there with the song. And it does seem that it’s relatable to SOME.

No, I’m personally no expert on the current market. But I truly think as far as the American market goes, there are guys like Brent Baxter, some of his associates and others who DO know it. It’s their livelihood. And they’re right there with their finger on the pulse of it in Nashville, LA and New York. They communicate quickly to one another as they see it change. And the one’s who continue to have success adapt. (ie. Nashville’s Peach Pickers, Ashley Gorley, Hillary Lindsey & Shane Macanally) Then guys like you and I slowly hear/see the change through radio play or some online source, etc..That market IS fickle, and definitely changes like the wind. (here in America anyway). Maybe the German market is a bit different right now. (???)

I’m personally a stone cold, three-chord country music lover myself. I love it and grew up on it, along with many other genres. I’ve got a stack of “old sounding” country songs that I’ve written, that might’ve sounded decent in the 90’s, but would only have a snowball’s chance in today’s market. And I absolutely DO write from more of an “out-of the-box” perspective, because the current market DOES bore me at times. However, since I’m looking for new artist cuts and to run with the current market, I’ve learned from different industry experts that I MUST write and sound somewhat as they do. And then when that changes, I MUST quickly adapt. Otherwise, there’s no possibility for any financial reward for me in it. Even though I’d write for free.

No, I’m definitely not a fan of my creativity seeming limited by that.(the “selling out” if you will)  Many of the song lyrics in today’s music seem simple, boring and often predictable to me. I’d love to write these vague, Rolling Stone-like or Bob Dylan-like dramatic songs all about me. Or on political hard topics and negative, that really go deep and make the listener think. But, I DO KNOW that most (not all), but MOST women will NOT want to hear that right now. And man, that stinks! Some of the best songs ever written and recorded have been those types of songs. In the current market, there’s not a ton of them on American country radio, if any at all right now. Maybe a few Eric Church, Sturgill Simpson, or Chris Stapleton cuts without radio play. (???)

So, the songs I’m going to be putting on Frettie and out for review may seem boring, simple, vanilla, and “ooh baby-like”. I know, I know, it’s not me! But that’s what’s on the current radio here in America, and I want cuts. I’m a writer. And I’m one who will write a ton of material, similar to what’s on the radio (positive, uptempo, love, etc), in hopes to get paid doing what I love. Writing music.

And it’s certainly ok if all one wants to do is write for themselves, what they like, a few friends, or in a small local circle. Then hey, anything goes in that case! Right? I’ve got a ton of those!

Thanks again for sharing ‘Wild Horse Rider’ Frank! I’m definitely going to be listening to as many of yours as I can. And DO feel free to throw ANY constructive criticism at my songs at any time. That’s what I need to be successful. -Have a good one Frank!!!

April 04, 2018

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Frank Renfordt

Shane I really appreciate your comments here. I think we are not that different minded. I also try to write for the Country market - you will get to hear some other songs which may be more mainstream. However in the meantime I have not much hope that I’ll get anything cut. But I have fun with my own music. I like to hear my own demos and I’m proud if something I have created sounds good to me. Don’t focus to much on cuts and making money with songwriting that may be quite frustrating! Enjoy the process and don’t underestimate how difficult it is to write a hit song.

April 05, 2018


Wild Horse Rider

Written by Frank Renfordt

Wild Horse Rider

She is a little less ballet than rodeo
She's beautiful but it's not like her to show
Grown up in the fields of Arkansas
raised by brother John and her grandma

More confident than everyone I've met
hands on her hips daring me a bit
she's nobody's fool, but she's my girl
and sometimes I may be a fool for her

A sexy grin and sunburned skin
a worn-out baseball cap
Working gear and ash blond hair
yeah - she's like that

My red rose from the cotton fields
she's a little bit off the track
rough but irresistible
yeah - she is like that
never try to tame her
she'll buck you off her back
Like a wild horse rider
yeah - it feels like that

She's the fastest gun in town and she ain't shy
but a dead bird on the porch will make her cry
She's pretty, she's hot and so damned smart
but best of all she's got a golden heart

A sexy grin and sunburned skin
a worn-out baseball cap
Working gear and ash blond hair
yeah - she's like that

My red rose from the cotton fields
she's a little bit off the track
rough but irresistible
yeah - she is like that
never try to tame her
she'll buck you off her back
like a wild horse rider
yeah - it feels like that

Sometimes she needs a shoulder to lean on
I'm proud she's chosen me to be the one

My red rose from the cotton fields
she's a little bit off the track
rough but irresistible
yeah - she is like that
never try to tame her
she'll buck you off her back
like a wild horse rider
- it feels like that

My red rose from the cotton fields
she's a little bit off the track
rough but irresistible
yeah - she is like that
never try to tame her
she'll buck you off her back
like a wild horse rider
Yeah - it feels like that

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